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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2006.10.26 06:58:00 -
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Edited by: Rod Blaine on 26/10/2006 07:03:48
Look guys, just post the factual kills results and people will draw their own conclusions about the numbers given by Drakma.
In the mean while, gj on the pre-emptive spin there Drakma. You're admitting just enough of the obvious shortcomings of your alliance organisation in this instance to get away with, yet are able to put it all in a semi-contructive tone so as to nicely downplay the fact that it was just crappy play that lost you this one.
Next time it's going to be the same btw. And the time after that, and after that, etc. etc. Replace all you want, at some point it's going to be just you and your dread accounts remaining, and it will all end in tears.
edit: Nice Drakma, but playing with the numbers that way is not very impressive. You knew very well that more died, and thus more were there. You're just downplaying the loss again.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2006.10.26 07:20:00 -
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Edited by: Rod Blaine on 26/10/2006 07:24:17
 Originally by: Drakma
And before you spin the "few" comment, yes, I concider even 30 BS a "few" I personally produce that many in a week.
That's nice for you.
But it's not helping you populate your fleets much is it ?
ASCN have yet to win a battle in this war, doesn't that strike you as somewhat of a problem when we're about a month into it already ?
You may have gotten a gank here and there, won about three and a half of the two hundred or so skirmishes with frig/cruiser gangs, but have won not a single real fight where it mattered.
How do you figure you're going to turn that around so as to get better fleet composition and turnout ? If people simply know that boarding that pvp ship is equal to losing it in a silly way within a day, they're not likely to board something usefull and expensive, or anything at all for that matter.
Do you think that downplaying the losses under protection of the excuse that you 'forgot' to check your facts before posting is really going to help there ? Or that saying you personally build 30 BS a week will help others decide to take the one they built into a fight to lose it ? (I'd say they're more likely to wonder where those 30 BS/week end up)
Well, maybe it will. It's better then saying we faked the killmails, that's for sure...
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Rod Blaine
Evolution
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Posted - 2006.10.26 07:25:00 -
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Edited by: Rod Blaine on 26/10/2006 07:25:21
Originally by: Miss Overlord
the truth upfront can be helpful in nullifying excess propaganda
Switched corp/alliance/hemisphere/gender again Ollobrains ?
For your remark to be applicable here, the truth would have had to be in the op, when it wasnt.
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Rod Blaine
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.26 07:38:00 -
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All true (well, i havent checked the market for those bs actually).
Let's keep it at a small error of judegement then. It would be smart to avoid giving us forum-ammo next time by checking your numbers to make sure they wwere correct.
Actually, you deserve a compliment tbh. You seem to be much better at this then Cyvok and most certainly then Mccreedy or samuraijack. The truth content of your post may not have been 100%, but it's been closer hten anything else i've seen come forth from ASCN spokesmen in a good while 
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Rod Blaine
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.28 13:04:00 -
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1 and 5 are fair enough, but your points 2,3 and 4 don't work in Eve, or at least not in the way you put them.
Do you know why no other alliance can field fleets as fast as BoB can, as complete as BoB can and as well-organised as BoB can ?
Because we do the opposite of what you are saying. We have a very few people that point ut at something and tell us when to go. Then we have a fair lot of people that will take leadership of our fleets without needing to be asked to or assigned squads, without discussion about who is going to be leading and without nonsense about seniority or ranks. And after that we've got a damn lot of pilots that will stfu and do what they need to, when told to but also when *not* told to.
We don't waste time on practicing, on having ranks, titles and a military structure. We simply go and do what needs doing.
The main reasson it works is because we mostly like to do what we need to be doing, or at least smart enough to know that doing what we don't like to be doing leads to us doing more of what we like to be doing later on.
The last thing ASCN needs to do is formalize it's organisation further. We'd simply dance circles around them while they have their "personal" command lines thing going on.
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Rod Blaine
Evolution
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Posted - 2006.10.28 15:44:00 -
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Edited by: Rod Blaine on 28/10/2006 15:45:36
I agree, accusations of exploiting shouldn't be brought here.
On the other hand, I wouldn't be discounting them as lies so easily either if I were you. But there's no need to go into this any further. If there's good reason to believe it then those reasons will go to GM's, not the forums.
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